And this is where we get into all those dodgy issues that come up when ficcers come up against canon authors and the like - the idea that the fans somehow know what should happen better than the people who wrote the damn thing. It's the whole entitlement thing when it comes to shipping: "We invested out emotions into the ship, and therefore the ship must happen."
I'll cut some slack on it feeling like it's begging to be fixed. It does present it like a fair bit it's some terrible unfair tragedy that clearly must be fixed by getting her back. It couldn't keep Billie, it couldn't kill Rose, it wanted the big ending (or non-ending, if you see it that way).
And that fact is, indeed, worrysome. Because it puts a lot of the Rosefen in a much worse light - claiming to love a character, but only showing interest when she is shipped with the Doctor. There are some... distressing overtones to that, particular when you combine it with the "Being with her man = the happy ending."
I think if they hadn't pushed it, people would have shipped them anyway. Based just on how much of the evidence is stuff we'd expect the Doctor to do anyway, and on how close RTD wants that sort of relationship to be. But it's indeed strange that people who adore Rose don't want her to be happy on her own or with someone else. (I... sort of suspect that Mickey got left with her so that we could assume they get together. There were ways to keep him, he's a likeable character, he'd have meant losing less of the recurring elements. But he's also someone we might want to see Rose end up with even if we don't want to see it right away. And of course there's the fake-out on Rose's pregnancy and Mickey's the obvious candidate. Even the Doctor ships them, omg.)
It's like she has no purpose without the Doctor, which, okay, they pushed a bit, but that was so totally her being lost in the whole thing. Otherwise she's just regressed as a character and might as well just have died in her first episode.
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Date: 2006-08-01 12:38 pm (UTC)I'll cut some slack on it feeling like it's begging to be fixed. It does present it like a fair bit it's some terrible unfair tragedy that clearly must be fixed by getting her back. It couldn't keep Billie, it couldn't kill Rose, it wanted the big ending (or non-ending, if you see it that way).
And that fact is, indeed, worrysome. Because it puts a lot of the Rosefen in a much worse light - claiming to love a character, but only showing interest when she is shipped with the Doctor. There are some... distressing overtones to that, particular when you combine it with the "Being with her man = the happy ending."
I think if they hadn't pushed it, people would have shipped them anyway. Based just on how much of the evidence is stuff we'd expect the Doctor to do anyway, and on how close RTD wants that sort of relationship to be. But it's indeed strange that people who adore Rose don't want her to be happy on her own or with someone else. (I... sort of suspect that Mickey got left with her so that we could assume they get together. There were ways to keep him, he's a likeable character, he'd have meant losing less of the recurring elements. But he's also someone we might want to see Rose end up with even if we don't want to see it right away. And of course there's the fake-out on Rose's pregnancy and Mickey's the obvious candidate.
Even the Doctor ships them, omg.)It's like she has no purpose without the Doctor, which, okay, they pushed a bit, but that was so totally her being lost in the whole thing. Otherwise she's just regressed as a character and might as well just have died in her first episode.