So, this is what happens when I am in the middle of studying for an Astronomy test - I think up crackified Doctor Who meta. Luckily, the test is now done, and so I can write it up properly.
Warning: Contains a seriously WTF-y running metaphor.
Firstly, despite the fact that I came up with this theory just this morning, the actual idea behind it is something that has been floating in my head, ever since I managed to really surprise someone who had been on my flist for months with the fact that I wasn't a particular fan of the Ninth Doctor.
Which is, in it's own extent, true. However, I don't want that to be taken as dislike at all - he was, after all, the Doctor that turned me from someone who would watch the show if it was on, to a raging, "I must get the rest of the episodes now" person. I loved his portrayal when it was happening. It's just that now I look back, and I don't feel any particular compulsion to rewatch most of his episodes. I loved him at the time, but now... I'm a bit meh.
That's not to degrade Eccleston's performance in any way - when he was good, he was very, very good. The season finale, Dalek, the Moffatt two-parter, they are all outstanding performances, show-stealing, really. It's just that in a lot of other episodes, whether it is due to scripting or directing or acting, he just sort of... fades into the background for me. (Note: For me. I am aware that other people mightn't share this opinion. As they say, your mileage might vary)
Which might explain my meh-ness. I am an admitted fan of lead characters, of the heroes of stories, as it were. Central characters, the one's the story focuses on. As much as I adore minor characters and all, I also like my hero to be the absolute centre of attention-type, to grab my complete attention.
And, aside from the episodes mentioned, and a few other moments throughout the series, the Ninth Doctor didn't do that for me. Or rather, I thought he did at the time, but now in comparison, he doesn't grab me like I would like.
Yes, in comparison. Because as a few flisters of mine know, I adore Ten. He just works for me, on every level. Yeah, there is the shallow factor, which I won't deny (I was never attracted to CE whatsoever, though I can sort of get why others were. Personally, the age thing, plus the fact he distinctly resembled one of my old school teachers sort of squicked me enough to completely avoid thinking about him in that manner at all). But there is also the fact he just grabs my attention. It might be the stories he's been given, the more proactive role, but it also has a lot to do with the fact that he seems to have been designed to hit every one of my "I love this character" buttons. He's a cocky, snarky, funny, occasionally very random, lonely, clever, arrogant, hubristic motormouth with a rather dark streak, and I can see so much of my other favourite characters in him. He revels in being the centre of attention, and I revel in watching it.
Which is a bit odd, because the Doctor, in all his incarnations, is always my favourite character. I've loved every one I've seen, even if some (like, say the Second Doctor), I've only seen the tiniest amounts. And I am utterly desperate to see more of the past Doctors.
And I combine all these factors in my head, and I just go "huh?"
And this is where the completely cracked out analogy comes into play.
The Doctor is like chocolate.
No, seriously. It's very cliche female, but I love my chocolate. Give me chocolate, and I will be happy. Any brand, any type, any amount, and I am content.
And I am the same way about Doctor Who. Give me an episode to watch, any era, any Doctor, any style, and I will watch it. I will enjoy it. And I will love the Doctor in it. I love it all.
And so... say, you've been given a lot of Dove chocolate (Feel free to insert your own preference here, but Dove is my supermarket brand of choice. Mmm, Dove.) Once a week, you get another block. It's good chocolate, you are happy with it, you love it. And so this goes on for weeks and weeks.
And then, the Dove stops. This shocks you a little - they can't do this, you love your chocolate! And they aren't so cruel to take it away from you completely, so you get given some more chocolate. Some different chocolate.And it turns out to be, say (
fa11ing_away will appreciate this one) Lindt chocolate. Mmm, Lindt.
And after a little bit of Lindt, you are completely in love. Or perhaps it takes you a few blocks. But after a while, you have found a taste that you adore. And you look back, and try a little Dove, and it just isn't the same. It's not that the Dove has gotten worse, you've just found something you like more.
It's not that I don't love Eccleston's version, all jokes aside. I still love it. He's the Doctor. It's just that I have found a Doctor I love more. If asked to choose between the two, I know which one I'd pick. This doesn't mean he has gone down in my opinion, it's just that I have a new standard as my favourite. Liking something more doesn't take away from how much you like everything else.
(A different analogy: A new world record doesn't make the previous time any slower. It's just not the fastest any more)
And there is no upper limit to how much you can love something.
I've found my favourite brand, my favourite flavour. That doesn't mean I refuse anything else - give me chocolate, and I will take it, no matter what it is. In fact, I'll even go searching out flavours that I haven't tried before - you know, the milk chocolate everyone loves, the wild fruit and nut combinations, the dark chocolate with some ingrediants that aren't to everyone's taste, the mild, plain chocolate when I want something less outrageous, the old traditional classic. In fact, every know and then, I might go and try the Dove again.
This is possibly why I have utterly no comprehension of people who claim they won't watch anymore Doctor Who now Nine is gone, or those old school types who refuse to watch a particular Doctor. I mean, chocolate is chocolate - it's always good. Even if it's not you favourite flavour, it still so much nicer than almost everything else. The Doctor is the Doctor. Always.
So there we have it - the Ninth Doctor is my Dove, whilst the Tenth is my Lindt. I am sure there are some people who prefer Dove to Lindt. r some who want Cadbury, or something else entirely. Or those who think Nine is Lindt, and Ten is Dove. Or Cadbury. Or that cheap stuff in homebrand Easter eggs.
But I love them all, really. I'll take whatever flavour I am given. They are all good. It's just that I like some better than others. I have my flavour, and it works for me, and everyone else has their flavours. They might be the same, they might not.
But don't be dissing my taste, plz. Just because it isn't the same as yours, doesn't make it wrong. Just because you hate white chocolate doesn't mean everyone else should. And passive-aggressive dislike doesn't stop it from being bashing, no matter how nice your words are. Let me enjoy my flavour in peace, okay? have your preference, but don't criticise me for having mine.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go see what I have in the fridge...
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Warning: Contains a seriously WTF-y running metaphor.
Firstly, despite the fact that I came up with this theory just this morning, the actual idea behind it is something that has been floating in my head, ever since I managed to really surprise someone who had been on my flist for months with the fact that I wasn't a particular fan of the Ninth Doctor.
Which is, in it's own extent, true. However, I don't want that to be taken as dislike at all - he was, after all, the Doctor that turned me from someone who would watch the show if it was on, to a raging, "I must get the rest of the episodes now" person. I loved his portrayal when it was happening. It's just that now I look back, and I don't feel any particular compulsion to rewatch most of his episodes. I loved him at the time, but now... I'm a bit meh.
That's not to degrade Eccleston's performance in any way - when he was good, he was very, very good. The season finale, Dalek, the Moffatt two-parter, they are all outstanding performances, show-stealing, really. It's just that in a lot of other episodes, whether it is due to scripting or directing or acting, he just sort of... fades into the background for me. (Note: For me. I am aware that other people mightn't share this opinion. As they say, your mileage might vary)
Which might explain my meh-ness. I am an admitted fan of lead characters, of the heroes of stories, as it were. Central characters, the one's the story focuses on. As much as I adore minor characters and all, I also like my hero to be the absolute centre of attention-type, to grab my complete attention.
And, aside from the episodes mentioned, and a few other moments throughout the series, the Ninth Doctor didn't do that for me. Or rather, I thought he did at the time, but now in comparison, he doesn't grab me like I would like.
Yes, in comparison. Because as a few flisters of mine know, I adore Ten. He just works for me, on every level. Yeah, there is the shallow factor, which I won't deny (I was never attracted to CE whatsoever, though I can sort of get why others were. Personally, the age thing, plus the fact he distinctly resembled one of my old school teachers sort of squicked me enough to completely avoid thinking about him in that manner at all). But there is also the fact he just grabs my attention. It might be the stories he's been given, the more proactive role, but it also has a lot to do with the fact that he seems to have been designed to hit every one of my "I love this character" buttons. He's a cocky, snarky, funny, occasionally very random, lonely, clever, arrogant, hubristic motormouth with a rather dark streak, and I can see so much of my other favourite characters in him. He revels in being the centre of attention, and I revel in watching it.
Which is a bit odd, because the Doctor, in all his incarnations, is always my favourite character. I've loved every one I've seen, even if some (like, say the Second Doctor), I've only seen the tiniest amounts. And I am utterly desperate to see more of the past Doctors.
And I combine all these factors in my head, and I just go "huh?"
And this is where the completely cracked out analogy comes into play.
The Doctor is like chocolate.
No, seriously. It's very cliche female, but I love my chocolate. Give me chocolate, and I will be happy. Any brand, any type, any amount, and I am content.
And I am the same way about Doctor Who. Give me an episode to watch, any era, any Doctor, any style, and I will watch it. I will enjoy it. And I will love the Doctor in it. I love it all.
And so... say, you've been given a lot of Dove chocolate (Feel free to insert your own preference here, but Dove is my supermarket brand of choice. Mmm, Dove.) Once a week, you get another block. It's good chocolate, you are happy with it, you love it. And so this goes on for weeks and weeks.
And then, the Dove stops. This shocks you a little - they can't do this, you love your chocolate! And they aren't so cruel to take it away from you completely, so you get given some more chocolate. Some different chocolate.And it turns out to be, say (
And after a little bit of Lindt, you are completely in love. Or perhaps it takes you a few blocks. But after a while, you have found a taste that you adore. And you look back, and try a little Dove, and it just isn't the same. It's not that the Dove has gotten worse, you've just found something you like more.
It's not that I don't love Eccleston's version, all jokes aside. I still love it. He's the Doctor. It's just that I have found a Doctor I love more. If asked to choose between the two, I know which one I'd pick. This doesn't mean he has gone down in my opinion, it's just that I have a new standard as my favourite. Liking something more doesn't take away from how much you like everything else.
(A different analogy: A new world record doesn't make the previous time any slower. It's just not the fastest any more)
And there is no upper limit to how much you can love something.
I've found my favourite brand, my favourite flavour. That doesn't mean I refuse anything else - give me chocolate, and I will take it, no matter what it is. In fact, I'll even go searching out flavours that I haven't tried before - you know, the milk chocolate everyone loves, the wild fruit and nut combinations, the dark chocolate with some ingrediants that aren't to everyone's taste, the mild, plain chocolate when I want something less outrageous, the old traditional classic. In fact, every know and then, I might go and try the Dove again.
This is possibly why I have utterly no comprehension of people who claim they won't watch anymore Doctor Who now Nine is gone, or those old school types who refuse to watch a particular Doctor. I mean, chocolate is chocolate - it's always good. Even if it's not you favourite flavour, it still so much nicer than almost everything else. The Doctor is the Doctor. Always.
So there we have it - the Ninth Doctor is my Dove, whilst the Tenth is my Lindt. I am sure there are some people who prefer Dove to Lindt. r some who want Cadbury, or something else entirely. Or those who think Nine is Lindt, and Ten is Dove. Or Cadbury. Or that cheap stuff in homebrand Easter eggs.
But I love them all, really. I'll take whatever flavour I am given. They are all good. It's just that I like some better than others. I have my flavour, and it works for me, and everyone else has their flavours. They might be the same, they might not.
But don't be dissing my taste, plz. Just because it isn't the same as yours, doesn't make it wrong. Just because you hate white chocolate doesn't mean everyone else should. And passive-aggressive dislike doesn't stop it from being bashing, no matter how nice your words are. Let me enjoy my flavour in peace, okay? have your preference, but don't criticise me for having mine.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go see what I have in the fridge...
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Just earlier today, I commented to someone on a matter regarding both Ten and chocolate (namely that I wanted both just then, ahem), and there I was talking about organic dark chocolate with lavender and blueberries. Apparently I'm a chocolate snob. Not that Dove and Lindt aren't plenty good, of course!
Nine and Ten are both dark chocolate to my mind, for the record, but Ten's probably one of those crazy blends with the chilies and whatnot for that extra kick to it.... ;)
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Though I am intrigued by this dark chocolate with lavender and blueberries, it sounds very nice. *stupid student budget*
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Oh, are you talking about the Dagoba lavender (http://www.dagobachocolate.com/store/product.php?productid=12&cat=3&page=1) bar? Mmmm, good stuff!
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I adore Ten. He just works for me, on every level.
I agree. There is the pretty, which is really distracting because, like OMG TEH PRETTY, and such. But that's not actually all there is to it (though: OMG TEH PRETTY!!!!), Ten is working for me, too. I LOVE HIM. The Weasel is nailing the Doctor big time for me and making me want to watch, say, Troughton (just as an example, as I've never seen any Troughton, how weird is that?). But yeah, I totally get what you mean. I don't get the way people have been putting Tennant down for his fanboy status, because I'm sure it's precisely his fanboy status that is doing this to me. Ten is making me love The Doctor all over again. He is like an amalgamation of all the best bits of all previous Doctors (though again: Troughton I just don't know, but I'm guessing) wrapped in pretty as an added bonus. I love Ten.
AND: OMG TEH PRETTY.
I think I said that already.
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But yeah, Ten. A whole lot of awesome, wrapped up in pretty. Lindt flavoured.
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however, as i only have limited icons to play with, i'll just chuck it in here for a cameo appearance...
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Forrest Gump.
And somehow, I think even that particular saying is still appropriate to the Doctor...
XWA
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And Ten is absolutely Lindt, no question.
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I've never had Lindt, but I think I need to now. I love Ten, but I do (at least currently) enjoy Nine more. He grabs me in a way Ten doesn't. Or, I believe Nine's performances more than Ten's, I guess. I feel Ten is forcing a lot more than Nine. But, hey, chocolate is good. And, as for older Doctors, cheap knock off chocolate is still better than no chocolate. XD
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And like I said about Nine and Ten, your mileage may vary. You prefer Nine, I prefer Ten, it's all good. As long as we stay away from any character bashing.
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I'm sorry, there was a theory attached? I got distracted. ;)
Which is my way of saying I agree, totally. Though for me, Four is the Doctor, mainly because it's the scarf and jellybabies which are the best-known of the Doctor. And I like the maniacalness of Baker's performance. Ten is a good second.
Oh, and eww...White chocolate. Who eats that stuff? :P
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And now I am imagining chocolate covered jellybabies. I blame you!
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And Two is my shiny Green & Black's Mayan Gold goodness, yes.
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And random thought: Shouldn't One be Aztec hot chocolate?
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I think I am still waiting for the second series script that just blows me away the way some of the first series ones did. TGITF I love in the way I love Father's Day, which is to say the plot niggles bug me HUGELY but I like the character stuff almost enough to balance it out, but nto quite. But I still feel like the second series (and the Tenth Doctor) are just staring out, and still haven't quite found their footing yet. Which is slightly worrying, as we're almost at the half-way point. But then, "Dalek" was the half-way point last year, so I am prepared to be amazed and delighted in the coming weeks. And if this series is like last series, then I will gain a new appreciation for the first six episodes upon re-watching after the whole series has aired.
I do agree that Eccles may be a better actor, but DT is a more Doctor-y Doctor. Which I do think was deliberate, as Eccles' Doc was meant to relaunch the series for a whole new generation, whereas now that the show's a bona fide hit, it has the freedom to bring in more elements from the original without fear of alienating the mass audience. Hence Ten = Two Plus Four minus Three plus Nine plus Eight minus Six, plus Seven, with All New extra Bits What Are Unique to Ten. And no, the maths don't add up, but it makes sense in my hed.
(And there is some Five in there, but that may be the bit where I still see Five as less beige than other people do, cos I think hsi snark is hella sneaky as opposed to loud and overt like Six.)
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:: fangirls you madly ::
Only the coat is beige, baby!
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But ten? Oh yeah - so damn sexy!
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WERD, YO. ;)
I have to say that I completely agree with what you've said above. I always had that feeling, but I really didn't have the words to describe it. Until now! Thanks for putting it into a metaphor that I totally understood. :D
Would you mind if I posted a link to this post in my journal?
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And it's nice to know the metaphor strikes a cord with a few other people.
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Do you mind if I link to this post in my journal?
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You have inspired me to iconage.
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I love this analogy!
Thing is, surely there is room for discussions of why one prefers Lindt over Cadburys and vice versa, as long as it's not presented as "Give Me Lindt Or Give Me Death!"
(oh, crap, now I have to make that icon, I really do)
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Lulz. Really.
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Most of my flist never really got over the regeneration because they are all huge nine nerds, so I often find myself reading comments about how much better Eccleston is to Tennant, when to me, it really just boils down to preference. I liked both, but I fangirl Ten.
I've also seen a lot of Ten haters say that RTD is ruining the character by catoring too much to Tennant. But I think he catored just as much to Eccleston, and that both actors share quite a few qualities with their respective Doctor portrayals. Those fans just prefer the end result of the RTD/Eccleston relationship, so they don't feel the need to complain about it. Well, that's a sweeping generalization, but I think there's some truth to it.
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Um...what? Seriously, what? That's got to be one of the strangest arguments I have ever come across, and I don't see it at all. Tennant's the guy who argued with the producer about the character's reaction to Rose being dragged into the AU, because he thought the version as scripted was OOC.
But I am with you on the end result vs complaints thing.
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I don't think we've met before, but I found you via
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But the rest, yes fits.
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