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Non-spoiler version: I think it pretty much works out as I really liked the episode for it's own sake, but the second it finished, I was suddenly dreading what the shippers would make of it.
Because as good as it was, there was so much fodder for badfic.
But I think when your least favourite thing about an episode is that it makes you worry about crazy shippers, than it's a pretty good sign.
Oh, and anyone who says Tennant can't act after seeing this episode will be feeling the back of my hand. Srsly.
Firstly, yes Rose's development was completely botched - girl is majorly fucked in the head. However, as I wrote a little while back, Rose is the thing that I really pay the least attention to when it comes to the episode.
So having something that you really don't care about somewhat screwed up? Not a huge issue.
To do what I always do, and resort to bizarre metaphors, if you don't care how your hair looks, than a bad haircut won't bother you, yes?
It's a little disappointing, because they could have made me actually like her if she'd pulled a Mickey, but instead my opinion of her didn't change at all.
Though I have a little hope for her - even if she hadn't learnt from Sarah's message, the Doctor had, at least - give people a goodbye, give them a resolution, give them proof of an ending and then they can start to move on. So there's still a chance for Rose.
Also, why the fuck does everyone think the Doctor asking Rose about the baby implied he was wondering about timebabies. Dude, she has a job, Jackie is two months gone with a man she's had to completely had to re-learn, it's obviously been months. If it was his, Rose'd be way showing. The Doctor knows that much about biology, at least.
And she just told the Doctor she was living with Mickey. I thought it was pretty obvious he thought it was a Mickeybaby (what with him having seen her emo of Mickey leaving and all...)
That entire scene gave me huge School Reunion flash-backs actually.
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misscam when they said Norway)
What else...
The Dalek vs Cybermen bitchfests? Best. Thing. Ever. I would quote some, but it was all so fabulous.
And the Daleks pwned, yo. I love Daleks liek whoa, and these ones were just awesome.
And I adored the way the backed up when they heard about the Doctor - actually I adored the Dalek-Doctor scene in it's entirety. What with all the little Time War hints, and the Doctir being all dark and awesome and Tennant doing with cool sneering his version of the Eccleston showdown. (Lesson learnt from this - Eccleston doesn't do anger better. He does shouty!anger better. Tennant does some fabulous cool viciousness, though)
Mickey was teh rock, as always, and there were some great moments from other Jackie and Pete. "How rich" indeed. And Mickey and the Doctor's look when Jackie says there hasn't been anyone.
And the Doctor kissing Mickey on the head, whee!
Yvonne was quite awesome, from her frantic "Queen and country" wails as she was Cyberised, to Cyber!Yvonne which was just brilliant and unexpected.
Also, your anti-ship thought for the day: When Rose is being sucked into the void, what does the Doctor do to save her?
Nothing.
Doesn't move a muscle to save her, doesn't let go of the magnet-whatsit, doesn't do anything apart from yell. He just keeps hold to keep himself from being sucked in.
So much for self-sacrificing love.
And for all the people who say it was ripped off Pullman, I was not a fan of that ending of his, so for all my apathy to Rose, I preferred this. Whereas there was like no set-up for it in Pullman's books, there was set-up here.
Finally, who the hell is Catherine Tate, and why is everyone so outraged by her appearance? I found the ending hilariously brilliant, actually. Just when we thought it'd be all emo and tragic, you've got a random lady in a wedding dress!
Oh, and I almost forgot, the Black Dalek got away!
Because as good as it was, there was so much fodder for badfic.
But I think when your least favourite thing about an episode is that it makes you worry about crazy shippers, than it's a pretty good sign.
Oh, and anyone who says Tennant can't act after seeing this episode will be feeling the back of my hand. Srsly.
Firstly, yes Rose's development was completely botched - girl is majorly fucked in the head. However, as I wrote a little while back, Rose is the thing that I really pay the least attention to when it comes to the episode.
So having something that you really don't care about somewhat screwed up? Not a huge issue.
To do what I always do, and resort to bizarre metaphors, if you don't care how your hair looks, than a bad haircut won't bother you, yes?
It's a little disappointing, because they could have made me actually like her if she'd pulled a Mickey, but instead my opinion of her didn't change at all.
Though I have a little hope for her - even if she hadn't learnt from Sarah's message, the Doctor had, at least - give people a goodbye, give them a resolution, give them proof of an ending and then they can start to move on. So there's still a chance for Rose.
Also, why the fuck does everyone think the Doctor asking Rose about the baby implied he was wondering about timebabies. Dude, she has a job, Jackie is two months gone with a man she's had to completely had to re-learn, it's obviously been months. If it was his, Rose'd be way showing. The Doctor knows that much about biology, at least.
And she just told the Doctor she was living with Mickey. I thought it was pretty obvious he thought it was a Mickeybaby (what with him having seen her emo of Mickey leaving and all...)
That entire scene gave me huge School Reunion flash-backs actually.
(And I thought of
misscam when they said Norway)What else...
The Dalek vs Cybermen bitchfests? Best. Thing. Ever. I would quote some, but it was all so fabulous.
And the Daleks pwned, yo. I love Daleks liek whoa, and these ones were just awesome.
And I adored the way the backed up when they heard about the Doctor - actually I adored the Dalek-Doctor scene in it's entirety. What with all the little Time War hints, and the Doctir being all dark and awesome and Tennant doing with cool sneering his version of the Eccleston showdown. (Lesson learnt from this - Eccleston doesn't do anger better. He does shouty!anger better. Tennant does some fabulous cool viciousness, though)
Mickey was teh rock, as always, and there were some great moments from other Jackie and Pete. "How rich" indeed. And Mickey and the Doctor's look when Jackie says there hasn't been anyone.
And the Doctor kissing Mickey on the head, whee!
Yvonne was quite awesome, from her frantic "Queen and country" wails as she was Cyberised, to Cyber!Yvonne which was just brilliant and unexpected.
Also, your anti-ship thought for the day: When Rose is being sucked into the void, what does the Doctor do to save her?
Nothing.
Doesn't move a muscle to save her, doesn't let go of the magnet-whatsit, doesn't do anything apart from yell. He just keeps hold to keep himself from being sucked in.
So much for self-sacrificing love.
And for all the people who say it was ripped off Pullman, I was not a fan of that ending of his, so for all my apathy to Rose, I preferred this. Whereas there was like no set-up for it in Pullman's books, there was set-up here.
Finally, who the hell is Catherine Tate, and why is everyone so outraged by her appearance? I found the ending hilariously brilliant, actually. Just when we thought it'd be all emo and tragic, you've got a random lady in a wedding dress!
Oh, and I almost forgot, the Black Dalek got away!
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ya rly.
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Snerk. I don't know either. Every time someone shouts "stunt casting!" on this show, it's something that goes RIGHT over my head and therefore I don't have to worry about it, fortunately.
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She was the only person I had heard of before I saw them in Doctor Who, anyway.
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Totally didn't have one of her singlesFrom:
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nope.
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Now that I think about it I probably agree, but I always liked Jackie and Mickey better too. ;)
Doesn't move a muscle to save her, doesn't let go of the magnet-whatsit, doesn't do anything apart from yell. He just keeps hold to keep himself from being sucked in.
So much for self-sacrificing love.
Admittedly, though, I don't know what he could have done without getting sucked in himself- and I imagine getting sucked into the void would invalidate more regenerations. ;)
Finally, who the hell is Catherine Tate
She's a comedinne and I personally think she's incredibly talented, but clearly a lot of people don't think so. ;) From what I remember she was also once a Shakespearian actress, and I'm going to see if I'm right. XD
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See, doesn't that just make for much less bother over the ending?
She's a comedinne and I personally think she's incredibly talented, but clearly a lot of people don't think so. ;) From what I remember she was also once a Shakespearian actress, and I'm going to see if I'm right.
Do tell what you find out, yes? I'd love it if everyone is having fits over someone who actually has good credentials.
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Ten hurts good. I want him to fall in love with the bride just so he can do the sadface again when she leaves him.
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I think the brides the "get over the emo, realise that life goes on" person. Etcetera and so forth.
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Allows for Celeb Guest on Christmas Day and means Martha doesn't have to deal with the immediate aftermath of Rose. Win!
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Though I admit to being one of them who finds his DW less interesting than his other stuff.
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Don't bther with the American version. It's dire.
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Fuck. Yes.
This Entry: Yes.
And I love the woman in the white dress. If only because her name is Donna, my name is Donna Rose, and she's wearing a wedding dress which likely means lots of angst and thoughfulness and admissions like: "Donna, Rose was the love of my life" which will turn me to liquid.
Or not. I might still be a little not-right in the head.
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*is such a wimp*
Sucks about School Reunion. Perhaps another episode.
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We have the same name.
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Bit meh on Rose and Mickey getting back together. She so loved the Doctor better, why is he putting up with that
and breaking up with Jake for her?And I want the Christmas episode!
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Well, we don't know they are back together. I got that the Doctor might have thought they were, but they weren't sharing a bed or anything...
And bring on The Runaway Bride!
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He did? Now I have to check that. *G*
And Catherine Tate is apparently a comedian in the UK, if I googled that right.
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I totally agree. I hated the Pullman ending and felt manipulated that it had just been conjured up at the last minute. This definitely had more set-up, and was also driven by the fact that Billie was leaving the show, an excuse which Pullman didn't have.
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The big irony - Billie's current project is another Pullman series.
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Oh, you hands are so silky smooth and not manly or hairy...
Catherine Tate is evil incarnate and she'll have to work *very* hard in the Christmas Ep to make me think anything different.
The Dalek's will *never* die.
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In any case, I have never seen this Catherine Tate you speak of before, so I go into the Christmas Special with no preconceptions. I think this is a good thing.
They're like cockroaches.
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Only much prettier. Is the Black Dalek now officially the last Dalek?