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The BBC Red Button Doctor Who S3 trailer.
Clips from all through the series. Notable guest stars. Daleks. Fascinating quotes.Tennant looking really hot. Clips of [spoiler] and [spoiler] and [other spoiler]. Bloody awesome music.
I think if I were to partake in any more awesome at this moment, I would explode.
Clips from all through the series. Notable guest stars. Daleks. Fascinating quotes.
I think if I were to partake in any more awesome at this moment, I would explode.
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Exciting? Hell yeah.
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Don't actually want to get this excited, though. I'll pay for that on Saturday...
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Which is a fabulous line.
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I get the impression that comment is rather out of context... I don't know, but it feel like it's not being applied to the Doctor...
(Fab line, though, yes)
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Though there was an interesting suggestion about it in relation to Human Nature. (If you know the book's plot, a kid gets the Doctor's memories temporarily, and someone on the OG suggested it was him talking about the memories)
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Could be, though. The voice sounds sort of similar to that of the guy saying 'family of blood' earlier in the trailer, too.
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Wow. I'm dead of awesome. ([Spoiler] looks appropriately creepy! And and that shot from the Human Nature two-parter! Doctor & Martha being adorable! [Torchwood-related spoiler!])
Thanks for linking!
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This is going to be *so* good.
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(Which sort of fits what I guessed - more UST, less canon-implied romance)
But yes, THERE IS SO MUCH WHICH IS OF THE AWESOME!
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...Which is possibly why certain batshippers tend to get a bit Madonna/Whore when comparing Rose and Reinette/Martha/whoever else.
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I feel kind of weird now cos I had that idea that Ten loved Rose but didn't fancy her as such.Possible evidences in favour of the idea that Ten'n'Martha are less with the declarations of love but possibly more with the UST?
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Kiss scene, bed scene, the fact that Martha apparently calls Ten on the sexuality stuff so an obvious foregrounding of the sexuality side, a pre-review who said that there's more flirting (and this was just the first episode), the fact that Tennant has chemistry with everyone,
bantery relationships with mild insults being hot like burning.Basically, a lot of the advertising effort seems to have gone into setting up the chemistry stuff.
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I think Rose just... settled into habit? She doesn't shag the Doctor, therefore she should not ask to shag the Doctor, even though he might just say "Yeah, okay, that'd be fun."
Basically, a lot of the advertising effort seems to have gone into setting up the chemistry stuff.
Freema seems to be the big nay-sayer. *ponders
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Possibly Freema has seen the way certain fans have reacted?
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You want my current likely very wrong guess on the relationship arc or should I not spam you with insane speculation?
Possibly Freema has seen the way certain fans have reacted?
She's certainly changed her tune and is playing down a lot more than Mr "I am a proven success in my role and generally downplay the romance angle" McSexy.
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First ep or so - basically setting up the characters to like each other. Show Martha the ropes, do the Celeb Historical and the Far Future Story. By the time we hit ep 6, Martha will have got the gist of it and will have seen the Doctor's emo and possibly seen him being scary. By this point she'll either stay or she won't, so it's the Reaffirming Wish To Travel Ep. Possssssibly (I'm pretty doubtful) this is where she'll give some sign of being over her initial lust. Which would mean that whatever they have afterwards is without pretence or misunderstanding. In ep 6 she obviously decides to stay. The pattern in previous seasons has been that the first half tests the relationship and the second half builds it for the angstfest in the finale. May change this year, but I think we'll have most of the pattern by that point.
Ep 7 -- and here I guess fairly wildly -- I think may be the one where the Doctor has to really face up to the idea of losing Martha, and that having her means she'll leave him somehow and may indeed get killed. This just after he's started getting used to the idea that it might be okay to attached.
8 and 9... if Martha's still got her crush then this should shake it a lot. Not because it's "oh noes he cheet on me" but because by this point she should have all the pieces to work his emo. I think it's quite possible that Martha starts out thinking "Oh, his girlfriend left him, how sad" and then works out that he ain't gonna be cured by the love of a good woman.
After that... dunno. Jack might give us a bit of love triangle again, and is well-placed from Torchwood to give the Doctor a speech about seizing the day etc. If it's unrequited love for reals then by that point she has to be over it or the Doctor owes it to her to let her down gently. Then the big finale where everyone cries. They might find their comfort level in the finale? I reckon there's a low chance of the season ending without the Doctor and Martha hitting something comfortable and stable, which doesn't demand resolved UST but does mean it'd be going into the next season with a relationship that doesn't place narrative constraints on anything and that ought to be replacable without too much aggro. Essentially it's Nine/Rose but with more ongoing stuff to tie up and ending on something that leaves more room for maneuvre which I can't spell.
I think. I speculate. I have no idea. Just that the Doctor's still got the loneliness stuff going on and he's got the outstanding issue of not telling people he loves them.
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On the other hand, if you went for Human nature set-up, it could be an entirely different "her" who is lost. And hence Humanness.
Also, there was an article I read from Rusty about deciding when the Doctor lets Martha in on the Last of the Time Lords/Time War stuff. That could be important, too.
*random thinkies* Will John Smith give Joan a declaration of love?
Also: That long trailer remains awesome no matter how many times you watch it.
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...err, I mean, yeah, that's what really tipped it for me as being tSPish and it looks like it takes effort and time to save Martha so maybe that's the big one for the Doctor's side of things?
John/Joan... hmm. Would it count if he's not really himself at the time? Or like as a contrast thing?
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"Erm, well. [Doctor is awkward] I couldn't have done it without you today. And I could use some company..."
Only, you know, better.
Because the random person whose review I read and lost made mention of the Doctor only promising one trip because he would rather travel on his own now.
And then the TARDIS keeps refusing to take them back to Martha's time, because she wants the Doctor not to be alone. And so, ep 6 could have him change his mind from that (and be when Martha stops being the Rose replacement, and starts being the important one in her own right).Another thought is that Human Nature will basically have Joan as representing human!Doctor, and Martha as Time Lord Doctor, battling it out (subtextually, anyway), to see where he falls. And we know he'll end up Time Lord, so either Joan dies, or my personal theory is that she forces the Doctor to walk away from her (I think Cornell likes the idea of people sacrificing themself for the good of humanity, so giving up her husband because the world needs a Doctor could work).
But your pattern of relationships seems to make sense to me.
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If Ten in some way rejects Martha or places a proviso on her staying, then he has to take it back by about midpoint. Otherwise she's got implicit rejection hanging over her and that's a bit much to carry over into the second half. I think you call it good with there being a big deal made of the Doctor asking her to stay or happily accepting her if she's the one to ask.
I wonder how Joan will play. It seems to rest heavily on the unknowns of how he ends up human and how they split them up in the end.
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And I stand by what I said at the OG about episode 6 seeing both of them end up at the Lazarus whatsit for different reasons after splitting up, him being surprised to see her, and then them teaming up to save the day (and thus triggering "I couldn't have done it without you"s and so on)
And it's also the episode that supposedly does a lot to further Martha's character arc...
Agreed on the Joan stuff.
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(I'd keep an eye out for references to tickets or invites somewhere in ep 1)
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<333333333!!!!!!!!!
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;)
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