Your daily dose of absurdity. So, there were ticket inspectors when I was getting off my tram today. And though I had a ticket, it wasn't as yet validated. I think you can guess where this is going.
Anyhow, when they took my name and address, slight problem: I didn't have anything in my bad that proved my address - only address was the farm (You know, my parents place). So, the ticket inspector dude proceeded to ring my Mum at the tram stop, in order to check the address I had given him was accurate.
Yeah, that was strange. Amusing, though, for all it's WTFery.
Anyhow, onto the actual meat of this post. Which, coincidental timing aside, was not actually inspired by this Fandom_Discuss post. I just tl;dred in the comments there.
It has probably been obvious to the denizens of my flist - it's certainly been obvious to me by the amounts of comments to my posts - that I have been making rather less posts in recent months regarding Doctor Who (and assorted spin-offs).
And I've sort of come to the conclusion that it seems my fannish focus on Doctor Who has been waning.
I don't know where and when it started exactly, but it sort of started to fade about the middle of S4, and has never really recovered. Which isn't so much a criticism of S4 itself (though I have some epic issues with parts of that, heavily focused towards how it ended), but more the fact that Doctor Who fandom... it's no longer my Happy Place.
The way the fandom itself has been is probably the main cause of this, really. Not so much individual people, but the overall tone of things. And worse, I think, is the fact that we're all just having the same debates, over and over again. To be quite honest, I was already sick of talking about Rose at the start of S3 (and the rest of S3 didn't help). So people still going on about this stuff over a year later...
Ship wars, anger at RTD's treatment of Martha, whatever. Once upon a time these things were interesting, whether it was anger or thought provoking or amusingly wanky. But it's all gotten sort of stale now, and I haven't really the motivation to come up with something new.
It's not that I'm blah on all Who - I still occasionally find something interesting or amusing or whatever. But LJ is repetitive and quiet on the Whovian front (or at least the parts I care about), and the DWF seems incapable of having a thread I find interesting without ending up in tedious wank/sniping/ridiculous speculation/Martha or Freema bashing (I'm looking at you, Team Rocket).
I suppose I'm timing this well, given that with only the specials coming up for another year and a half, I have the strong vibe that I'm not going to miss much new. It'll just continue to be blah blah Is X returning blah blah OTP blah blah My companion was done wrong blah blah Moffat is going to be God/Satan.
It's not just that I have gotten kind of fed up with the fandom. It's not just the lack of involvement from the characters I am most invested in (And Martha and Mickey showing up in Torchwood would have done so much to restore my excitement). It's not just I don't really care for how S4 ended, and the spoilers so far haven't enraptured me.
I'm just not as enthused about things, either good or bad, as I once was.
Or to sum up all this tl;dr: Sorry Doctor Who fandom, I'm breaking up with you.
This isn't an "I'm leaving fandom" post. I'm still going to mod at
lifeonmartha - though that requires rather less effort these days - and I still read spoilers and follow the news and check out fics and fun stuff recommended to me.
And I'm not telling my list to go or anything - I still do read a lot of your posts on Doctor Who stuff. It's more I'm lurking again than getting involved. This is just to inform you go guys that my posts will no longer be all Doctor Who, all the time. Or even much of the time.
It's no longer Me/Doctor Who OTP. It's back to just friends.
And my new fannish lovelife is complicated enough. I've just started my affair with Comics, and I'm already cheating on him with Anime.
...And now, just to be contrary to the entire point of this post, I wish to drop in a link to a nifty bit of Doctor Who meta, namely about Martha and her character arc.Because it always makes me grumpy when people say Martha had no character development.
...Why doesn't a Martha fanvid to I Will Survive exist already?
Anyhow, when they took my name and address, slight problem: I didn't have anything in my bad that proved my address - only address was the farm (You know, my parents place). So, the ticket inspector dude proceeded to ring my Mum at the tram stop, in order to check the address I had given him was accurate.
Yeah, that was strange. Amusing, though, for all it's WTFery.
Anyhow, onto the actual meat of this post. Which, coincidental timing aside, was not actually inspired by this Fandom_Discuss post. I just tl;dred in the comments there.
It has probably been obvious to the denizens of my flist - it's certainly been obvious to me by the amounts of comments to my posts - that I have been making rather less posts in recent months regarding Doctor Who (and assorted spin-offs).
And I've sort of come to the conclusion that it seems my fannish focus on Doctor Who has been waning.
I don't know where and when it started exactly, but it sort of started to fade about the middle of S4, and has never really recovered. Which isn't so much a criticism of S4 itself (though I have some epic issues with parts of that, heavily focused towards how it ended), but more the fact that Doctor Who fandom... it's no longer my Happy Place.
The way the fandom itself has been is probably the main cause of this, really. Not so much individual people, but the overall tone of things. And worse, I think, is the fact that we're all just having the same debates, over and over again. To be quite honest, I was already sick of talking about Rose at the start of S3 (and the rest of S3 didn't help). So people still going on about this stuff over a year later...
Ship wars, anger at RTD's treatment of Martha, whatever. Once upon a time these things were interesting, whether it was anger or thought provoking or amusingly wanky. But it's all gotten sort of stale now, and I haven't really the motivation to come up with something new.
It's not that I'm blah on all Who - I still occasionally find something interesting or amusing or whatever. But LJ is repetitive and quiet on the Whovian front (or at least the parts I care about), and the DWF seems incapable of having a thread I find interesting without ending up in tedious wank/sniping/ridiculous speculation/Martha or Freema bashing (I'm looking at you, Team Rocket).
I suppose I'm timing this well, given that with only the specials coming up for another year and a half, I have the strong vibe that I'm not going to miss much new. It'll just continue to be blah blah Is X returning blah blah OTP blah blah My companion was done wrong blah blah Moffat is going to be God/Satan.
It's not just that I have gotten kind of fed up with the fandom. It's not just the lack of involvement from the characters I am most invested in (And Martha and Mickey showing up in Torchwood would have done so much to restore my excitement). It's not just I don't really care for how S4 ended, and the spoilers so far haven't enraptured me.
I'm just not as enthused about things, either good or bad, as I once was.
Or to sum up all this tl;dr: Sorry Doctor Who fandom, I'm breaking up with you.
This isn't an "I'm leaving fandom" post. I'm still going to mod at
And I'm not telling my list to go or anything - I still do read a lot of your posts on Doctor Who stuff. It's more I'm lurking again than getting involved. This is just to inform you go guys that my posts will no longer be all Doctor Who, all the time. Or even much of the time.
It's no longer Me/Doctor Who OTP. It's back to just friends.
...And now, just to be contrary to the entire point of this post, I wish to drop in a link to a nifty bit of Doctor Who meta, namely about Martha and her character arc.
...Why doesn't a Martha fanvid to I Will Survive exist already?
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I try not to get too involved with the New Who side of fandom when the series isn't airing, mainly for burn-out reasons and as you say, the same old arguments and debates going back and forth without much (if any) progress being made. Instead I get excited for the new DVD releases of Classic Who stories and I'm very much enjoying the new season of The Sarah Jane Adventures. So I'd say that having breaks from getting involved in fandom too heavily is definitely A Good Thing and something everyone should do now and again. A little goes a long way.
Hopefully your enthusiasm will be restored when season five rolls around in 2010!
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But I think you're right about S4 - unsatisfying is the right word. Not because it was bad, but because the pay-off wasn't nearly as good as the set-up would imply. Someone needs to tell RTD that bigger isn't always better.
See, I'm sort of doing the same thing. Except my other interests are a bit further out, and it's sort of taking more and more to drag me back into the Doctor Who stuff. Once upon a time I checked DWF daily. Now it's about once a fortnight.
Here's hoping Moffat brings back my Who love.
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And I think I caught the start of the Dark Knight hype-storm at about that time. And that went and swept me into comicsdom (Though I'm still more a lurker than anything else).
Ah, bless you Dark Knight. Not only were you my epic movie of the year, but you also got me into a whole new shiny fandom. That is especially shiny, since it is both ongoing and freaking huge, being an entire form of media. Bless.(no subject)
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Freema squee is still going strong though!
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Especially the Freema bit (Seen the most recent post at
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This is exactly how I interact with all of my fandoms. It's often much less stressful!
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It also means I have rather less conversations with my flist. Which is not so fun.
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But then again, your usual RL squeeing hasn't been at all about DW for a while now, so I suppose I should have seen it coming.
Do you need a post break up movie fest or something? Chocolate?
Need me to call a dial-a-Davros stripper?On the plus side however, you can now move on to other things. Not necessarily better, as I do have to question alot of anime, but certainly with less tentacles and bubblewrap...actually, don't tell me if this doesn't actually end up being the case. Please, oh gods, please*.
*Ok, maybe just a little bit.
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Rina out.
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Which, incidentally, means by the time the Moffat series comes around, the speculation will have reached a critical mass of stupid.
I need new things to watch, that's what I need. (Okay, after I finish reading the Haruhi books).
I don't want to know what goes on in your brain any more.And anime's like saying TV. There's the good, and the bad, and the cracktastic. Hopefully, I shall continue to get pointed towards the good (and some of the cracktastic).
...And yeah, I should be heading to bed.
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Also, "The Middleman" (with, along with SJA, really does feel more like Classic Who than Nu Who does), "Supernatural" and gaming has (re)invaded my fanon experience and really hasn't made room for much else. I might feel some inspiration again when Moff takes over, but despite thinking the guy's stories are brilliant, I haven't even watched pt 2 of his S4 2-parter yet. My reinvestment in Who, even in era of Moff, is looking kind of grim.
And I could put this in the apropos post, but as I'm a lazy bastard, you're like the fourth person I know in two months that's loved the hell out of "Princess Tutu". It's almost Sanrio-levels of cutesy looking hence why I haven't quite been able to get myself to watch it, but the curiosity is getting to me.
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At this point, I think it'll have to take a pretty good hook to get me back into fandom heavily. I mean, I'll still watch the episodes, but it'll be less setting my alarm to grab them when they first show up as it will be at some point after they air.
I will admit that for the first couple of episodes, the cutesiness was so much that the only thing that kept me in was my ballet love and a few moments of great creepiness. And then the plot arc kicked in, and it got good. And then the second season came along, and it was much darker and I was so there. And the last half of the second season was like someone reached into my brain and made an anime just for me.
...Yeah, it's awesome. Watch it. (I need better Tutu icons)
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Also, yay comics! Are you reading Final Crisis?
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I'm flicking through it on my weekly jaunt to the comic store. And on
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I've been 'meh' about who pretty much since the end of S3. I liked Donna, but I could never care as much about the stories anymore. I don't know what it was either.
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Word. Decent stories (mostly), I liked Donna, thought Tate was doing a mostly very good job with her. But the big love wasn't there.
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