Wow, I haven't updated for an entire week. Shows how exciting my life has been lately. Anyone care to link me to anything interesting going on online/in the news/whatever?

Anyway, last night I went to [livejournal.com profile] altheas and [livejournal.com profile] lena_supercat's place for a House Cooling party. (Like a housewarming, but in reverse!) Which meant meeting up for a whole lot of people I haven't seen in quite a while. And I seem to have stuff on for the next few Saturdays, so at least I'll have things on on weekends. Plus there's a few things I need to get sorted during the week. I may be going to a Halloween party next weekend...

And for some entertainment value: LOL, Snapewank time again. The Snapefen - no, sorry, Severusmoms - are at it again. This time: claiming he's still alive, really!

And a Kirk/Spock fanvid of great lulz.

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OT, but what's with the joke that DW killed Snarry? I still don't really get it, even though I've seen DW. I mean, I guess you could compare Rose/Doctor to Snarry in some weird, twisted way, but... not really, apart from the huge age difference and - that's it, really.

Don't get me started on grudgey Snapefen and their various counterparts. Almost everyone in fandom probably had some idea or another that was completely debunked by JK Rowling. It's one thing to be disappointed with the way things were written - a lot of people hated the epilogue, and while I personally really liked it, I don't think that consensus is wanky, because it's an opinion about how the books ended. But wanting your character to be written the way you envisioned him or her is.
Edited Date: 2010-10-24 12:43 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] drakyndra.livejournal.com


Read all about it here! Or the short version: Some Snarry fans got wanked. It wasn't all that interesting, so half the comments ended up on a tangent about Doctor Who. A Snarry archive was deleted, and the Snarry fans blamed FW. Which had been, you know, talking about Doctor Who.

Yeah, there's a big difference between not liking a particular aspect of a story, and the epic grudge some people seem to have over it. The Snapefen (and the Harmonians, and other similar groups) seem so personally offended by things not going their way.

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Or the short version: Some Snarry fans got wanked. It wasn't all that interesting, so half the comments ended up on a tangent about Doctor Who. A Snarry archive was deleted, and the Snarry fans blamed FW. Which had been, you know, talking about Doctor Who.


Ahhh. :P


Yeah, there's a big difference between not liking a particular aspect of a story, and the epic grudge some people seem to have over it. The Snapefen (and the Harmonians, and other similar groups) seem so personally offended by things not going their way.


I don't get it at all, really. Maybe it's easy for me to say because most of my ships were canon, but that doesn't mean I liked everything that happened. I just don't see the point in being angry over it - especially more than three years later!

Of course, you also have the reverse of that, where some fans think the books are perfect and get angry if you disagree with anything in them. I'm in the middle - there's stuff I didn't like, and I really don't think the books are perfect, but I don't hate them, and I don't have anything against JK Rowling personally. She seems like a nice lady (with a snarky side I approve of) who happened to gain an insanely large following, some of whom decided what should happen in every paragraph.
Edited Date: 2010-10-24 02:29 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] drakyndra.livejournal.com


I may have some fondness for the phrase because I was the one who originally said it.

I just don't see the point in being angry over it - especially more than three years later!

Well, yes. Generally speaking, if I have major issues with a fandom I would leave it, and certainly wouldn't be around three years later. Generally I don't stick around unless I genuinely like something, even if it is flawed.

I think I am with you on my opinions of the books: They aren't perfect but there's nothing I find hugely wrong with them. And JKR seems to have a sense of humour about herself which some of these fans are lacking.

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I think I am with you on my opinions of the books: They aren't perfect but there's nothing I find hugely wrong with them. And JKR seems to have a sense of humour about herself which some of these fans are lacking.

Exactly. And that's what bugs me the most when people call her a vile b*tch and stuff - she isn't any more perfect than her books, but she's a strong woman who has done a lot of stuff her critics never have. They can write an entire book while living in poverty raising an infant, go on to become rich but still remain giving, always advocating for causes and talking not about her success as a writer at a graduation, but her time working for Amnesty International, and then we'll talk about what a lazy, stupid, vile b*tch she is.

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Their criticisms always come off as so terribly petty. Especially when most of them just seem to motivated by not getting what they wanted in canon rather than anything else.

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Yeah. And I also feel like a lot of people projected other... let's say "tropes" on her. They wanted Snape and/or Draco to be more of a Spike (pre-season seven)/Jayne type, who everyone knew was neither here nor there from the very beginning, not someone whose intentions everyone merely doubted. And I think many people even hoped to see the Dark Side's "good points," because sometimes storylines do go there. Even if you take pre-series Torchwood, they were essentially an organization with good intentions that went about fighting evil in rather evil ways themselves. That is not what JK Rowling wanted for her Death Eaters. And even those shows had red lines between morally ambiguous and all-out evil, though admittedly some characters crossed the line and had to bounce back - or not.

Wow, this thread got long. :P

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Hey, early on Spike was bad. He was just the lesser evil to Angelus and co. But yes, the Death Eaters were too blatantly a racist organisation in a children's book to ever get their "good points", and Snape and the Malfoys did get a somewhat sympathetic portrayal. But they weren't ~*~cool~*~ about it: Lot closer to pathetic, really.
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