You can so tell the slashers are making this show.

I mean seriously, there isn't even the pretense of subtlety any more.

Not after Jack.

And Shakespeare.

And the Master.

And now this.

Oh, the Great Gay Agenda. Isn't it glorious?

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The sappy domestic stuff just. You can't do that with either of those pairings, and it keeps happening. The Doctor's just not made for fluff. Neither is Jack, actually.

Jack/Ianto in the background can be cute and I won't blink, but yeah, as soon as it comes into focus - I want answers for what happened. From canon, from fic writers, whatever's turning the spotlight on. It just can't be healthy. "I will watch you suffer and die" just doesn't translate to "I love you, so much."

It's WEIRD.

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Exactly. There are relationships which are all about the sap and fluff. But the Doctor and Jack don't have them.

It's weird, because Jack/Ianto is an ideal ship for fic writers - canon, but mostly off-screen, so they have plenty of room to maneuver, and yet there doesn't seem to be all that much work done to fill in exactly how that progression from hate to love (or at least sex and devotion) happened.

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I think honestly, and this really is a fairly nasty comment, best suited a rant community, that all the utter *crap* written has given most of the fandom's decent writers a knee-jerk hate response to the pairing. There are a few people who do a decent job with it, or write some of it, but for the most part they've been scared off by the same association that scares readers away.

What *really* interests me is when there's good, angry, violent and issuey stuff written for J/I, it gets all sorts of positive attention from fandom. Which leaves me wondering about all sorts of things - like who's actually reading the crazy sappy stuff.

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What *really* interests me is when there's good, angry, violent and issuey stuff written for J/I, it gets all sorts of positive attention from fandom. Which leaves me wondering about all sorts of things - like who's actually reading the crazy sappy stuff.

That's actually an incredibly good question.
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