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You can so tell the slashers are making this show.
I mean seriously, there isn't even the pretense of subtlety any more.
Not after Jack.
And Shakespeare.
And the Master.
And now this.
Oh, the Great Gay Agenda. Isn't it glorious?
I mean seriously, there isn't even the pretense of subtlety any more.
Not after Jack.
And Shakespeare.
And the Master.
And now this.
Oh, the Great Gay Agenda. Isn't it glorious?
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Filthy, but true.
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Someone so should make one of them with Steven Moffat instead of Joss Whedon.
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The Moff is just full of win, I love him so much.
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If you OTP the Doctor, UR DOING IT WRONG.
But yes, you can't not cheer on the gay agenda.
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I can't imagine why you wouldn't want to *G*.
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You should see some of the OG threads. It's died down a bit now, but back in the day some of the outrage... *shudders*
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Except, and I own it, Doctor/Rose and Jack/Ianto. I'm have no problem with the ships themselves. I've been scarred by drama and Really Sappy Fic.
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I say almost everything, because I'm developing a bit of a pathological loathing of Doctor/Rose. I like Jack/Ianto, but only really read stuff if it's recced now, because there's a lot of badfic floating around.
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I *can* like Jack/Ianto, but my view of the ship and the majority of people writing it (and god, I sound like an elitist bitch) are not compatible. I want a relationship with Issues. Sex, anger, dysfunction - great, bring it on. As soon as hyphenated last names and happily ever after and holding hands on dates come into it, I am done.
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I think I agree about Jack/Ianto. It's cute as a background relationship, but there are so very many issues there that need to be explored. How Ianto went from swearing revenge to jacket sniffing being the main one.
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Jack/Ianto in the background can be cute and I won't blink, but yeah, as soon as it comes into focus - I want answers for what happened. From canon, from fic writers, whatever's turning the spotlight on. It just can't be healthy. "I will watch you suffer and die" just doesn't translate to "I love you, so much."
It's WEIRD.
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It's weird, because Jack/Ianto is an ideal ship for fic writers - canon, but mostly off-screen, so they have plenty of room to maneuver, and yet there doesn't seem to be all that much work done to fill in exactly how that progression from hate to love (or at least sex and devotion) happened.
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What *really* interests me is when there's good, angry, violent and issuey stuff written for J/I, it gets all sorts of positive attention from fandom. Which leaves me wondering about all sorts of things - like who's actually reading the crazy sappy stuff.
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That's actually an incredibly good question.
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