Gay Agenda FTW!

[drakyndra]

You can so tell the slashers are making this show.

I mean seriously, there isn't even the pretense of subtlety any more.

Not after Jack.

And Shakespeare.

And the Master.

And now this.

Oh, the Great Gay Agenda. Isn't it glorious?

Comments

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

I think I'm a bit like that, really. I mean, I have my preferred ships - Doctor/Master, Ten/Reinette, and I rather like Doctor/Martha - but I'll read almost everything.

I say almost everything, because I'm developing a bit of a pathological loathing of Doctor/Rose. I like Jack/Ianto, but only really read stuff if it's recced now, because there's a lot of badfic floating around.

[fandom-me.livejournal.com]

I can like any ship, I think, but I definitely have favorites. I love Ten/Reinette, I like Doctor/Master but I'm picky, and I like Doctor/Jack. Interestingly, except Ten/Reinette, I like my pairings messed up *G*

I *can* like Jack/Ianto, but my view of the ship and the majority of people writing it (and god, I sound like an elitist bitch) are not compatible. I want a relationship with Issues. Sex, anger, dysfunction - great, bring it on. As soon as hyphenated last names and happily ever after and holding hands on dates come into it, I am done.

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

I like Doctor/Jack, but have seen a disturbing amount of fics heading towards the sappy domestic stuff, so am very picky. And I'm starting to be like that about Doctor/Master, which seems to be heading the same way, alas.

I think I agree about Jack/Ianto. It's cute as a background relationship, but there are so very many issues there that need to be explored. How Ianto went from swearing revenge to jacket sniffing being the main one.

[fandom-me.livejournal.com]

The sappy domestic stuff just. You can't do that with either of those pairings, and it keeps happening. The Doctor's just not made for fluff. Neither is Jack, actually.

Jack/Ianto in the background can be cute and I won't blink, but yeah, as soon as it comes into focus - I want answers for what happened. From canon, from fic writers, whatever's turning the spotlight on. It just can't be healthy. "I will watch you suffer and die" just doesn't translate to "I love you, so much."

It's WEIRD.

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

Exactly. There are relationships which are all about the sap and fluff. But the Doctor and Jack don't have them.

It's weird, because Jack/Ianto is an ideal ship for fic writers - canon, but mostly off-screen, so they have plenty of room to maneuver, and yet there doesn't seem to be all that much work done to fill in exactly how that progression from hate to love (or at least sex and devotion) happened.

[fandom-me.livejournal.com]

I think honestly, and this really is a fairly nasty comment, best suited a rant community, that all the utter *crap* written has given most of the fandom's decent writers a knee-jerk hate response to the pairing. There are a few people who do a decent job with it, or write some of it, but for the most part they've been scared off by the same association that scares readers away.

What *really* interests me is when there's good, angry, violent and issuey stuff written for J/I, it gets all sorts of positive attention from fandom. Which leaves me wondering about all sorts of things - like who's actually reading the crazy sappy stuff.

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

What *really* interests me is when there's good, angry, violent and issuey stuff written for J/I, it gets all sorts of positive attention from fandom. Which leaves me wondering about all sorts of things - like who's actually reading the crazy sappy stuff.

That's actually an incredibly good question.

[fandom-me.livejournal.com]

I think I'm going to be reading a lot of Jack/Ianto fic in the near future.

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

Lucky you. :P