Holy crap!

[drakyndra]

Was lurking around a few threads on the OG, when I stumbled upon a recent - and rather unexpected post from Teh Moff.

(From here)

In response to a previous commenter's "Writer Steven Moffat has all but admitted that The Doctor & Rose were sexually active as of the 'Doctor Dances' episode"

Teh Moff:
"I say, no I didn't! The whole scene was about the fact they WEREN'T at it - indeed, it was the Doctor being slightly hurt that Rose hadn't even considered him in that light.

There's precious little evidence they ever got up to anything, I'd have said - that it doesn't stop it being a love story, of course (it clearly was) but unrequited surely?

Oh, it's all sex with you lot, isn't it? And when the writer of Coupling says you're banging on about sex too much, it's time to start listening.

Steven Moffat"

Did mine eyes just decieve me, or was the word "unrequited" just used to describe the Doctor/Rose relationship by someone in the know?

Comments

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

I felt all Jossed when he felt the need in Doomsday. "Oh, so it wasn't just beyond words then? Bugger. So much for their love." Also I thought it was actually quite cruel to leave her with something like that. Like it'd just play on her mind.

[fannishnonsense]

I freely admit that the end of Doomsday made me cry, so in that sense RTD probably got what he wanted. But when I stopped to think about it I realized that it really doesn't make any sense at all in the context of the rest of the season. I mean, the Doctor suddenly cries and talks about his emotions? And what ever happened to the themes of moving on and growing up and learning to let go of the past that they kept hammering home episode after episode? The whole thing just makes me crazy.

And yeah, that's gotta screw her up. Which is really frustrating, because I want to believe that she moves on with her life at some point. So things like that just make me worry that she never will.

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

I mean, the Doctor suddenly cries and talks about his emotions?

Because the romantic in us wants him to! I think they could have pulled tragic misery off without him crying but what do I or Steven Moffat know of such things?


And what ever happened to the themes of moving on and growing up and learning to let go of the past that they kept hammering home episode after episode?

It bugs me that I can completely understand the episode when I look at it entirely from the persepective of fanservice and giving the audience what they expect and trying to get BAFTAs and yet in the wider story it makes little sense in my head. Woe.


And yeah, that's gotta screw her up. Which is really frustrating, because I want to believe that she moves on with her life at some point. So things like that just make me worry that she never will.

It may be less love-declaring, but "have a fantastic life" was a much better message to leave her (and us) with than "omg i luv u byeeee."

[fannishnonsense]

So basically it's emotional manipulation of the audience in pursuit of accolades? Nice.

I think "have a fantastic life" was a great thing to say because it conveyed how much he loved her while still giving her something positive for the future. The aborted "I love you" is way too negative. What's she supposed to take away from that except wondering what might have been? Which leaves her stuck in the past instead of moving on (like he presumably wants her to).

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

So basically it's emotional manipulation of the audience in pursuit of accolades?

I suspect it is, ys.


I think "have a fantastic life" was a great thing to say because it conveyed how much he loved her while still giving her something positive for the future. The aborted "I love you" is way too negative. What's she supposed to take away from that except wondering what might have been? Which leaves her stuck in the past instead of moving on (like he presumably wants her to).

Yeah. She'd always wonder if he did if she hadn't pretty much forced him to say it, but as it stands she's thinking "If only we had not been parted, we could be wed. I should have said something earlier. We might still be together if I'd said something when we met the werewolf or when we were on the GameStation." Which is a bit depressing.